Just for the record, we tweaked some dialogue on chapter 12 page 7 – nothing major, just fine-tuning the scene.
Less than two days left in the Book 2 Kickstarter campaign – it ends at 9pm EST on Wednesday. Obviously at this point the chances of making our goal are very low, unless something extraordinary happens and half the Internet becomes aware of our comic overnight (if you know of a venue for that to happen that doesn’t involve adorable cat videos or setting something on fire, we’re all ears. ;P )
If you were going to pledge for a book, please go ahead and do so anyway – it’ll let us see how much genuine interest there is in buying books, and since the campaign is all-or-nothing you won’t be charged if the goal isn’t met. As for when we’ll make another attempt at getting Book 2 printed, it’s hard to say at this point. We’re going to talk to our local printer about whether they’ll give us a lower price per copy for a smaller number of books, and if that’s feasible we might try running another Kickstarter with a lower goal in a few months. However, we’re looking at a move across the country in the spring if all goes according to plan, and we don’t want that disrupting or delaying backers getting their rewards. After the move, it’s hard to say how soon we’ll be in a position to run a Kickstarter campaign.
To those were looking forward to the books (as some of you have told us), we are really sorry to be letting you down for the moment. And to everyone who’s contributed or helped to spread the word about the campaign, thank you so very much. We’ve been honored to receive such an incredible amount of support and encouragement over the last month, especially during what is for most people a very busy, stressful, and monetarily tight time of year, and we are extremely grateful to all of you.
No update this Friday, so that I can make some headway on new pages before holiday stuff gets really busy, since Chapter 13 is architecture- and background-intensive and I’ve been out of buffer pages since the beginning of the chapter.
As for the “ask the characters” question box for the Book 2 extras, I’ll be taking down the button in the sidebar once the campaign ends, but I’ll leave the form open, so you’ll still be able to submit questions here if you wanted to.
And as always, thank you for reading!
I took down the Kickstarter widget in the sidebar because it started displaying funny a day or so ago. There’s still a few days left in the Book 2 campaign – it runs till December 10 at 9pm EST. If you’d like a book (or books, if you don’t have Book 1) be sure to pledge for one, and if you want to submit questions for the characters to answer in the Book 2 extras the form is here. And if you have anywhere to share the campaign or recommend the comic, we’d be grateful!
(Edit: Kickstarter widget seems to be behaving again, so I put it back up.)
Just over a week left in the Book 2 Kickstarter campaign. If you want a book, now’s the time to pledge for one. And if you’re holding off because you figure we won’t make the goal in time anyway, please don’t! Anything can happen in a week, and if we don’t make the goal, no one will be charged.
What we could really use is help spreading the word about the campaign, anywhere and everywhere you can think of that people might like the comic. If you’re on Tumblr, I’ve written a ‘one week left’ post that you can reblog if you like. We’d greatly appreciate any signal boosting you can do!
Oh, and if you missed it, we added tree creature plushies sewn by Chezhnian to the campaign rewards:
New vote incentive on Top Webcomics is a very very rough sketch of the Genisai-and-knotwork picture that will be one of the prints for the campaign.
Thank you, as always, for reading.
The mortal plane’s a weird place, Kip…
Chezhnian’s adding her shiny new secret pledge tier to the Kickstarter this evening (Eastern time), so be sure to check the campaign page later!
(EDIT: New tier’s up! Plushie tree creatures! Read about it here.)
Just a note that I finally made a Tumblr blog… my social-media-impaired brain is still getting the hang of it, but I’ll be posting comic update notices there (starting Friday), as well as sketches and other things once in a while (some Tamuran-related, some not). You can find it here.
We’re halfway through the Book 2 Kickstarter campaign and only 26% funded so far… Anything can happen in two weeks, though, so there’s still a chance that we’ll be able to print these books for you guys. We’ll be promoting the campaign however we can, but we could definitely use the help if you have anyplace you can give us a signal boost. We’d appreciate it!
(oh, and you may want to keep an eye on the campaign page this week… we’ll be adding a limited-number pledge tier with something Chezhnian’s been working on that a number of people have expressed interest in in the past…)
One last thing, as of this posting the Chirault Volume 1 Kickstarter has just a few hours to go… so if you see this in the morning (EST) you still have time to contribute.
(And one last last thing, we hope everyone in the US has a great Thanksgiving, and we hope everyone else has a great week!)
Just a note that the Chirault Volume 1 Kickstarter is in its last few days. On its way to a pretty cool stretch goal, so go take a look!
As for our Book 2 Kickstarter, it’s been pretty slow going, but we’ve got some time yet. If you’d like to help us out by spreading the word, we could use the boost!
For convenience, here’s the link to the question box to submit suggestions for things to ask the characters for the Book 2 extras. I’ll put up a link in the sidebar later today.
First orders of business! The Kickstarter campaign for After Dark, a comedy webcomic about vampires in the modern age and what happens when society catches on to their existence, is in its final days and very close to making its goal. Go take a look!
Second: One of the extras in the back of Book 2 is an ask-the-characters mini-comic. We’d like to give you guys a chance to send in questions you want to see them be forced to answer, so we’ve set up a question box to take suggestions. You can ask as many questions as you like, and they can be as serious or as off-the-wall as you want – the form’s anonymous, we won’t judge (though when we choose which questions to include we won’t use any above a PG-13 rating or so. And we won’t be divulging major spoilers, of course, though you might get some character backstory here and there if you ask the right things…). Once upon a time we had a Formspring page where the characters would answer reader questions, and it was a lot of fun, so we figured we’d try out the same sort of thing for the book. So here you go, have at it!
Now on to the less fun stuff:
We’ve recently started getting complaints from readers about the hostility going on in the comments. We don’t like censoring people’s opinions, but when they’re interfering with other readers’ enjoyment of the comic or discouraging them from participating in the conversation, there’s a problem. It’s fine if you disagree with or dislike the characters – we’re not writing them to make them “likeable” all the time, we’re writing them to be people. Sometimes they make mistakes or do stupid things (for their own reasons), and some of them (all of them, really) have a lot to learn over the course of the story. And we think it’s pretty cool that readers are able to get behind the characters’ varying points of view – even of characters that WE as the writers don’t necessarily agree with. There are a lot of shades of gray to the comic and its characters, and a lot of opportunity for readers to have conflicting opinions. Sometimes people have very strong opinions, and sometimes people get carried away expressing them, we get that.
But above all else we want ALL our readers to feel welcome to comment and enjoy the discussion, without feeling like they have to be prepared to engage in heated debate to defend their opinions when they speak up. A few people have told us that they try to avoid even scrolling down to the comments because of all the outrage and character-directed hate getting thrown around in recent scenes, and that they’re getting discouraged from commenting because they feel like they’re going to be attacked by people who disagree with them, or like they’re going to start a flame war if they voice or defend an unpopular opinion. And that’s not a good thing. Even if only a few people feel that way, that’s too many – that is not the kind of environment we want to foster for readers to hang out in here. Friendly debate over plot points or character motivation is awesome, but please keep your comments civil and respectful of other readers, and of viewpoints that might be different from yours. You don’t have to inform people of all the reasons you think that they’re “wrong” just because they say something you don’t agree with. And it’s fine if you want to react to the characters with things like “wow, he’s irritating” or “WTF, Kip” or “somebody needs a bucket of ice water to the face” or what have you, but all the name-calling, bashing on, and exhorting violence against your least favorite characters edges on unnecessary, especially when you’re doing it in replies to other readers who may not appreciate it.
Not that these things are happening ALL the time, but apparently they’ve happened enough that some readers don’t feel comfortable voicing their own opinions in the comments. This being the internet, and communication taking place solely through text without any other cues to go on, use of italics and lots of exclamation points can go a long way, even if you don’t intend to sound hostile. So please tone down the (apparent) outrage and be considerate of other readers when you’re commenting. You’re welcome to disagree with people, but be mindful of how you’re expressing it. Have fun, just play nice.
Note that we have no desire to discourage negative opinions or feedback on our work. We are ALWAYS open to honest criticism of the writing, storytelling, art, or anything else – if you think our story is full of godawful plot holes or our writing of the characters is offensive and unrealistic, by all means let us know. But at the heart of everything, this site and the comments are supposed to be for fun – for everyone to enjoy the comic (we hope!) and engage and connect with us and with other readers, not for shouting down people who disagree with your take on how the story should go.
We think all our readers are awesome, and we truly feel honored that you come back here every week to follow our story. Thank you again for reading, and thank you for telling us what you think (good and bad) about the comic.
Welcome to Book 3!
And if you haven’t yet, please check out our Kickstarter campaign if you would like a copy of Book 2. (And share the link if you can – we’ve got a long way to go yet…)
Speaking of webcomics on Kickstarter, O Human Star’s campaign has less than two days to go, Chirault Volume 1 is blasting through its stretch goals, and After Daylight, a comedy webcomic about vampires trying to get by in the age of Youtube and thermographic cameras, has five days left and $1200 to go. Go take a look!
Aww, group hug!
(disclaimer: there are exactly 0 group hugs in this story. As of this writing, anyway.)
Thus ends Chapter 12 and Book 2 of the comic. Right now Chezhnian is working on the Chapter 14 script, and I am storyboarding out Chapter 13 and drawing the first few pages. This Friday we’ll post some artwork, and Monday, if the campaign is approved in time, will be the start of our Book 2 Kickstarter (about which I am both excited and nervous as hell). Then Friday the 14th will be the beginning of Chapter 13 and Book 3.
We hope you’re all enjoying the story – we’ve got lots of fun things ahead. As always, thank you for reading!
(Also, the new TWC vote incentive is the character portrait art I did for our new ad banners that you may have seen floating around recently.)
Happy Halloween! I didn’t have time to draw any characters in costume this year, sadly. What costumes would you guys choose for them? (keep it civil, please. We know some of you have strong opinions regarding certain characters.)
We’re almost to the end of Chapter 12 – and Book 2. Details about a Kickstarter to print our second book coming soon…
We are going to be vending this Saturday evening at the Haunted Hafla in New Holland, PA (Chezhnian will be dancing in the show, I will be selling books). Our friend D.C. McLaughlin will also be there selling her paranormal and fantasy novels again this year. So if you’re in the area, come see the show – doors open at 5, and the event benefits a local puppy mill rescue organization.
Leon was the one to spot Kip last page – good eye.
He’ll be okay. Probably. Maybe. eventually.
Ten points if you can spot Kip in the last panel.
The keyboard navigation should work now without redirecting you while you’re trying to type a comment – left and right arrows for previous and next pages, and shift+left and shift+right for the first and latest pages. If you’re still finding any problems or bugs with the site, let us know, especially if you’re viewing it on a mobile device (I don’t have a smartphone or tablet to test it on, myself).
disclaimer: he is not actually planning to burn anything.
“Ahkhsskrgh” is another lastre anduatha name. It (probably) sounds less silly if you imagine it as being pronounced by something like a lion rather than a person gargling – lastre don’t exactly name their kids things like “Bob” or “Emily” (or “Varony”). And while I guess we could write “growl snarl glottal-stop growl” as a character name rather than trying to approximate sounds with jumbles of letters that are only sort of close, that would… look even sillier.
(And that last panel wins at “sounds completely different when taken out of context,” hah.)
the “brother” is referencing the exchange on this page, if you don’t remember.
Our spam filter’s still not working right, so don’t worry if your comments don’t show up right away – I might have to manually approve them.
And a note in case you use Twitter or Facebook to get comic update alerts – we’re going to be out of town this week and might not be able to sign in to post the update notices. The pages will be queued to post as normal, though.
(by “we” he meant “I,” and by “try” he meant “come up with crazy schemes out of desperation.”)
EDIT – A few issues: I’ve disabled keyboard navigation for now, since the keys were redirecting people instead of moving the cursor while they were trying to type in the comment field. Submitted a bug report about that.
Our comment spam filter is having connection issues, so it’s currently dumping all comments into the moderation queue. Contacted the webhosts about it, but in the meantime I’ll be approving comments by hand – don’t worry if you submit one and it doesn’t show up right away.
Also, our webhost’s server seems to have been going up and down a lot for the past day or so – if you get a “Service Unavailable” (503) error page, that’s the server and not a problem with the link. Just refresh the page in a moment or so and it should work. (Contacted them about that, too.) They said the downtime was because they’d been getting bot-spammed. They’ve got it taken care of now.
Let us know if you find any other issues.
Finally, a website! We’re sorry about the delay – we’d anticipated the site being down less than a day for the upgrade. If you haven’t been reading the notices on the maintenance page and Twitter/Facebook, what happened was that during the process of converting the site over we ran into a server-side configuration issue that hadn’t been an issue on the offline test site, and at that point it was too late to revert the site back to the old version to make it live again while we waited for the webhosts to take a look at the problem. But now that that’s resolved, welcome to the new site! There are still a few things left to do (like make colored portraits for the cast page and in-depth bio pages for the main cast), but for the most part it’s finished. We’ve updated just about every site page, brought the Cast and World pages up to date, redone the Comic archive page so that you can actually use it for finding stuff, cleared the dead links out of the Links page and added more comics that we’re currently reading, and added an FAQ to the About page. The comic is now keyboard-navigable, too (use the left and right arrow keys to go to the next or previous page, and the up and down arrows to scroll). And since we were re-uploading the entire comic archive at a larger page size, we used the updated print book versions of the prologue through chapter 7. So now the dialogue font is consistent (and hopefully more readable) all the way through the comic, and some pages have minor tweaks and corrections to the art here and there.
An important note: We’ve switched over to a completely different comic management system, which unfortunately means that the permalink structure for all the comic posts (and everything else on the site) has changed – so please update your bookmarks if they’re something other than the main page. The awesome part is that we now have a much more functional archive page (click the ‘Comic’ link in the top menu, or the center icons on the comic nav bar), so if you were in the middle of a readthrough and your bookmark no longer works, you can locate the last page you were on by thumbnail images if you know what chapter you were in. Or just send us a note and we’ll help you find your place.
Anyway, have fun exploring the new site, and let us know if you find any issues that need fixing, especially if you use a browser other than Firefox or Chrome. Thank you for your patience in waiting for the site to come back online, and thank you, as always, for reading. And if you found us at AWA, welcome to the comic!
To report on a few things that are currently in the works: Several people have asked us about starting a Patreon account – we’re working on getting a page set up. And in a few weeks we’ll be starting a Kickstarter to print Book 2 of the comic (chapters 8-12).
And finally, you can vote on Top Webcomics to see the non-faded-out version of the maintenance page background art. If you’re not sick of the maintenance page background art by now. :P
Oh hey, this is page 401 of the comic. Chapter 12 page 20 was 400.
The new website’s just about ready to go. I’m planning on putting it up Wednesday. It’ll probably take a while, since the conversion involves doing a few manual WordPress upgrades, converting the comic over to a new management system, and reuploading all the page files at a different size. Wish me luck. :P
There might be some site downtime sometime this week, as I’m getting close to having the new site ready to go, and the actual conversion and uploading is going to take a while. I was aiming for Monday to launch the new site, but there are still some coding issues to work out, so we’ll see.
Not much to say this update. I’ve been working on website graphics and coding, and Chezhnian’s trying to compile and edit the Chapter 13-14 script while her computer does its best to thwart her at every turn. Fun times all around.
Thank you, as always, for reading!
Yeah… a few years of study abroad is one thing, but the prospect of permanent exile is something else entirely…
(Bear with us, guys, the scene’s not over yet. ;) This is definitely one of those parts of the story where I wish we were posting a chapter (or three) at a time instead of one page.)
Well, the ‘making her angry’ route seems to have accomplished… something…
She is referring, of course, to this trinket.
Just to clarify, the Genisai can’t hear what Kip and Ranon are saying telepathically (nor can anyone else).
Also, cocosnowlo did some awesome Tamuran fan art, which you can check out on deviantArt here. (I’ll be putting it up in the gallery on this site soon.)
aw, man, flippancy is out, too? What’s he supposed to work with here?
sorry, Varony, apparently nature spirits have no particular weakness vs. wall-o-text.
In more Kickstarter news, Amya’s campaign to print their 350+ page first volume has less than a week to go. Amya, if you don’t already read it (you should!) is a high fantasy comic with solid world-building, unique, well-developed characters, and great artwork, made by some really fantastic people. So please check out their comic and their campaign and help spread the word – there’s still a ways to go before they make their goal.
Somebody’s in trouble…
Thanks very much to everyone who’s been leaving comments and survey responses regarding a new site design – the input has been really helpful. We’ve gotten a lot of votes to keep the light-on-dark text, and so far as I’ve been experimenting with color choices I’ve liked the look of the light-on-dark ones better, so most likely we’ll be sticking with that. We’ve also gotten a lot of requests to make the font size bigger, so that’s going on the list, too. That’s one of the reasons for the redesign – the site was made when monitors tended toward slightly lower resolutions, so we wanted to update it and make it a bit nicer-looking and more readable, especially on bigger screens. I’m still finalizing the design, so feel free to keep sending suggestions. The site is for you guys’ use and convenience, after all.
Hey guys, since I’m currently working on a new, more professional-looking website design for the comic, we wanted to put up a suggestion box and see what you’d like to see on the new site. Here are some things that we’re currently planning:
- Larger, more readable comic pages
- Doing away with the light-on-dark text
- A usefully navigable archive page
- More convenient links to things like Facebook and Twitter (yes, we have a Facebook page, maintained by Chezhnian)
- Updated Cast page, with a ‘new-reader-safe’ version of major character profiles and a ‘spoiler’ version for current readers who want a refresher on who’s who and who did what
- Updated World page, with lexicon updates and a map of Tamuran
- A Links page that is not five years out of date
- An FAQ section
If there is anything not on the list that you’d like us to consider, or if you have any suggestions for FAQ questions, please let us know via this survey.
As always, thank you for reading!
No, Nashua, no we have not.
Update on the LeyLines Book 3 Kickstarter campaign, which ended today: they didn’t reach the stretch goal level where Chezhnian and I would contribute a short comic (it was a pretty high stretch goal level), but they did make their base funding goal and their first stretch goal. So congratulations to the LeyLines crew, and thank you to everyone who donated or helped spread the word. As for our comic contribution… maybe next time. :)
Morphyx are a little sturdier than your average small bird… luckily for Kip (and her shoulder).
(EDIT 12/11/14: Tweaked Ranon’s line in panel 4 for overall scene clarity.)
There’s less than a week to go in the LeyLines Volume 3 Kickstarter campaign that Chezhnian and I are contributing a comic for (if they reach our designated stretch goal level). They’ve made their base goal and are well on their way to the first stretch goal. Our level is one of the higher ones, but with nearly a week left, anything can happen. Take a look at their campaign, and help get the word out if you’re so inclined!
In other spreading-the-word news, Amya is running a Kickstarter to print a 350-page volume of the first part of their comic, complete with extra artwork, short stories, and a gold-foil-embossed cover. And Brittany, the artist for the first eight chapters of Snow by Night, is having an Etsy shop sale to help make her rent for the month – you can read about it here, and visit the shop here. Definitely check it out if you’re a fan of Doctor Who (circular Gallifreyan language art especially).
And while I’m linking things, the folks on this Tumblr are holding a summer Silmarillion read-along, complete with readers’ guides and team activities (I’m not on Tumblr, but I’m forcing Chezhnian to read along with me. So far she is surprisingly enthusiastic, for someone who has been made to sit through as many spontaneous lectures on Elvish etymologies as she has…)
There you go. Go forth and click stuff! And read comics! And have an awesome weekend!
So much yelling…
Keep it up, Kip, I think you’re winning!
Update on the LeyLines Volume 3 printing campaign (for which Chezhnian and I are contributing a comic if they make it to our stretch goal level) : they’re almost to their base funding goal, with 13 days to go. So there’s plenty of possibility for some of those stretch-goal contributions from various creators to make it in. They’ve also been posting video features about their guest contributors, so you may want to take a look if you’d like some fantastic new artists and comics to follow.
They’ll whip up some ‘lost dragon’ posters as soon as they get loose…
He doesn’t know what, if anything, is going on with Kip and Ranon… he just has a Very Bad Feeling about this.
Last update I mentioned that Chezhnian and I have been invited to contribute a comic for Robin and Cory of LeyLines’s campaign to print Volume 3 of their comic. For one of the campaign rewards they’re compiling a pdf book of “Trickster’s Tales” – an anthology of maybe-maybe-not-true LeyLines short stories, comics, and artwork by the LeyLines team and, as their stretch goals, various other comic creators. The more stretch goals they meet, the more creators’ stories are added. I think it’s a pretty cool idea. They’re already over halfway to their base goal, with 20 days to go in the campaign, so there’s a good chance that they’ll get to some of the stretch goals (crossing my fingers for that).
So please take a look at their campaign and help spread the word about it. And give LeyLines a read, too, if you don’t already follow the comic. It’s the story of a group of (mostly) royal siblings trying to find answers about the conspiracy that they become entangled in, set in a rich world that’s brimming with culture and mythology. Very good stuff.
One more note: Robin of LeyLines has invited us to contribute a comic for her Book 3 printing campaign as a stretch goal. I’ll talk more about it on Friday, but for now you can read about it on her campaign page. Go check it out!
End Chapter 11!
We’ll be taking a break from posting next week so that I can get ahead on pages and also work on art for a site redesign. Chapter 12 is all laid out and I’m currently penciling the first seven pages.
We’ll resume posting pages on July 8.
As always, thank you for reading!
Good morning, Ranon!
Sweet dreams, Varony!
Sorry, Nashua, that’s all you get.
Our first 50-page chapter! I don’t imagine it will be the last…
Just a few more pages to go in this one. I’ll be finishing them up this weekend.
Hello to anyone who found us at KarmaFest this Saturday. Welcome, and thank you for stopping by! We hope you enjoy the comic!
I’m working on catching up on replying to comments on the last several pages, so if you asked a question, be sure to check back to see the reply. I’m sorry for taking so long. It’s been an …eventful few weeks (though it’s starting to take a turn for the good-eventful, happily).
…so are we in trouble, or…?
Reminder that we’re going to be at KarmaFest this weekend north of Baltimore, MD – we’ll have an authors’ table indoors with Book 1 and our usual convention stuff. We’ll be there until 3 on Saturday (the 7th), and we may or may not be there on Sunday at this point – if we are, we’ll be sharing the table with our friend Devon McLaughlin. We’ll announce via Twitter, Facebook, and an update to this post when we know for sure about Sunday.
EDIT: We aren’t going to make it down for a second day of KarmaFest, but if you’re in the area, make sure to stop in and check out Devon’s books!
are we in trouble? we’re not in trouble, are we?
Congratulations, Varony, you’ve been promoted to the same rank as the obnoxious talking-animal pet/sidekick.
Speaking of whom… he’s around here somewhere…
It’s spur of the moment, but Chezhnian and I are going to have an authors’ table selling Tamuran books at Karmafest on June 7, at Oregon Ridge Park in Hunt Valley, MD. We’ll only be there for Saturday – on Sunday our friend D.C. McLaughlin will be selling her novels – fantasy and vampire-with-a-pagan-twist.
I’ve got the unfinished pages shaded and scanned; just need to do the last round of Photoshop edits and get them posted and we’ll be all caught up.
I removed the post about Chezhnian’s losing her cat for the sake of archive readability, but if you would like to see her video of him brushing his face, it is still posted here for posterity.
Chezhnian wanted me to post a note that Ranon’s birthday is May 17 (19 Fifthmoon in the Atrandian calendar system). Happy slogging through mud and getting hunted by swarms of creepy things, kid! (actually in-plot it’s the beginning of October.)
Only 25 seyelive on this page. Somehow it seems a lot fewer than the 31 on page 40…
Sorry, guys, the elves haven’t ALL been eaten… yet.
And sorry for the pencils; I’ve spent all evening after work failing at getting rid of a migraine. (I will be very happy when I’ve finished playing catch-up with these pages. Ugh.)
EDIT: Finished page is up.
For the record, there are 30 seyelive or partially-drawn seyelive on this page. (actually I drew 31; one ended up outside the cropped page boundary).
We know some people have issues with eyeballs, but they’re kind of the biggest target on these things… I tried to keep the squick toned down a little, at least.
And I’m sorry to be posting another inks-only page. I had some unexpected appointments come up this week… and the page took about five times longer to pencil than I was counting on. “Oh, no problem, finishing the pencils should take about another half hour.” Haah. I like archery, but Nashua’s bow is probably my least favorite thing in the comic to draw right now (along with ‘Nashua holding his bow’). Right above ‘Nashua’s tattoos’…
EDIT: Finished page is up.